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                            I have been searching for a Mark Crutcher for some time now born in 1868, lymington. He married a Elizabeth Ayres in 1932 Isle of wight, they had 7 children: Isaac, Mark, Walter, Albert, James, Annabella and Henry. There is no father stated for Mark on his marriage certificate. I have found a Mark Light in the 1871 census but then in 1881 the mother is named as Head as houshold as Annie Croucher, you have this information census on one of your pages also in 1881 it states Martha i think its meant to say Mark as it has son next to it. Do you think this is the family i need to search ?

T.Lambert email me as have...

 

T.Lambert email me as have folks related to your Mark Crtcher so loads of info.

 

To Site owner.  Thankyou for your email i have sent you a message it would be brilliant if there is more info than i have.

 

site owner  nr .i got full acess to census and birth marriage and deaths details from ancestry.com again i have found nothing i couldnt even find my nan and grandad on there i think i ought to just leave it all theres a reason that i cand find anything not even in the name of lambert ther death records  .i just dont know wher else to go now .any way thanks love light and blessings x kelly xx

 

Kelly dont give up !! I will have a look for you sorry its been longer getting back to you but I have had Computer problems !!but I havent  forgot Bokt Sue.

 

nais tuke site owner i feel really rude calling you site owner can i call u baba.it feels more customary lol .

im sorry to hear you had computer problems .modern things hey ?kushti kelly xx

 

Hi,

 

I am looking for further information and advice on how I could trace the parents/family of my great grandmother Phoebe Davis, who was a flower hawker/gypsy.  

Phoebe was born on the 31st March 1872, but it is unknown where, she had stated to the Wandsworth workhouse when she arrived there on the 7th April 1899 that her parents were gypsies and had lived in caravans, never having a fixed home that she can remember.  

In 1893 Phoebe had given birth to child (male) on Hastings Heath (?) which sadly died at the age of three weeks.  It was after this she ran away from home to be with her eldest sister. On the 6th May 1899 Phoebe gave birth to her son John Hughes Davis at the workhouse in Wandsworth. On her sons birth certificate Phoebe stated that she was a flower hawker and gave her address as 11, Point Pleasant, Wandsworth, London, a lodging house.   Phoebe left the Wandsworth workhouse on the 20th May 1899,  leaving her newly born son behind, and I have not been able to trace any further information about her or find her on any census returns.  Any help/imformation would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tracey

 

Tracey it may be a coincidence but on the 1901 essexthere is a john davis 23 and phoebe 27 and a son john age 1 and they are hawkers ,there are 2 other adults Davis both 25 but no details ?RG13; Piece: 1563; Folio: 126; Page: 30.

 

To Site Owner, i did send you another email, I have manged to find a christening for Isaac and Annabellas daughter, Louisa Light. But nothing for any of the other children. I have had searched in Lymington for Isaac and Annabellas son, Mark Crutcher/Crouchers birth but they were unable to find it, So still no birth certificate as of yet.

 

I am trying to find out about a William Perry any information you can possibly find me ,all i know is  he married  a mary smith  what year i don't know but he settled somewhere around beeford ,beverley  yorkshire on one census it told me he was born in bagley leicester  which i was told ragley  and on another it says nottingham all i know was he used to travel with the moors and the wests  and was some relation to the tipton slasher  but what that connection is i dont know. please send me any information you can about him i also know he was born sometime  about 1803 - 1811

 

Vicky William Perry was the Tipton Slasher and from web sites that i have seen .quite a few folk reckon rto have seen him as ghost!!

if you want details of web site let me know but if you google Tipton Slasher he should come up there is a great statue of him in boxing prose as well bokt Sue. ps thsi chap has a bare knuckle site(Hello there, as a collector of boxing material, I have a large number of rare images and details of fights and fighters from the period prior to 1910. The Tipton Slasher is mentioned, or featured, in quite a few articles and papers. I'm gradually uploading many of the images at www.famous-fights.com, although I haven't yet uploaded any on William Perry just yet.

If you'd like any details, or for me to check facts for you, just email me and I'll see what I can come up with.

Nick Mc - [email protected]

 

I must add my thanks to the other comments for such a useful site.

 

Could I use this platform to ask if anyone has any musicians in their family? I'm interested in anyone born anywhere in England in 1885 or earlier (so, active before 1900). This information is for an upcoming book to be published by the RTFHS. Any details will, of course, be acknowledged in the published volume.

Good ancestor hunting to all.

 

im not convinced that he was the tipton slasher .i think maybe a cousin as my william perry died in beeford yorkshire in 1871 and was a tinner and brazier i think possibly a cousin of his because my william perry married a mary ann smith and seemed to have all their children around beeford yorks there was 7 of them that i know of?

 

Vicky do you have a date of birth? as there are quite a few Wiliam Perrys! and did your William come from yorkshire?as any other info would help narrow it down like any kids or brothers and sisters etc.bokt sue.

grandad was alfred lambert...

 

grandad was alfred lambert born  april 21 1913 died in 1981 not sure if this will help xxxx thanks for your time and helpinh me .much love and blessings dear penner .satimos kelly

 

hi there i dont have birth certificate but on his death certificate it says he was 68 yrs old he died in 1871 so i think pssibly 1803 but on the 1851 census he was saying he was 40 yrs old  and born in bagley leicester  which i was tol was ragley  then in the 1861 census he says he was 50 and born in nottingham so this is what i cant figure out  he married a mary  ann smith ,there was 7 children  eliza 1848,mary 1849,thomas 1852,hannah 1855,sarah 1857,william 1858,joseph 1860 all born in beeford except joseph and he was born in beverley .dont know if he had brothers or sisters as this is where im trying to find out.

 

Hello site owner. Thankyou for all the information you have sent me its been a great help. Still no luck on getting a birth certificate for Mark light/Crutcher though. Do you have any information on His wife Elizabeth Ayres i only have a death certificate 22/6/1948, i.of.w. Also do you have any information on connecting your friends and sister in law as it would be great to add more if i can. Thankyou agin for your help T. Lambert.

 

Sorry Elizabeths name could also be just Betsy as this is stated on her childrens birth certificates and her death certificate. T. Lambert

soory i worked out my grt nans birth details wrong she would have been born in 1874 and her married name was ann lambert but again according to ,y family this is not true name for her .i am still having no luck ive decided to enlist my uncles help on this matter aswell but im hopeful between one of us well be able to solve it somehow lol any waysthanks for youre time .kel

HILDEN/YEALDEN

 

My great grandmother's maiden name was Patience Thisa Hilden (although Yealden on her marriage certificate to my great grandfather John Twyman in 1913).  

In later life she was known as Thirsa Twyman, and after being widowed she remarried and died as Thrisa Olsen.  

I have details of her later life, but nothing concrete of her parents and siblings.  I cant find out where she was born, exactly when (although I have worked it out to be around 1894.

She died in Thanet in 1961 and I have located her grave. I have searched the census and some BMD records for her or her family - but to no luck yet.

 

There do seem to be Hildens in the travelling community, but I havent been able to link them with my Patience Thrisa Hilden, even though my family all agree she was from gypsy origin. I would be grateful for any info should anybody know of her or her family.  Incidently on the marriage certificate it states her father to be Amos Hilden (and on occasions yealden)  I have photographs of her if anybody would like to see.

 

Also recently some newspaper clippings of Hilden Men (gypsies) between 1910 -1930 I think.  The names in the newspaper clipping are William Hilden and Harry HIlden. A family member tells me these are relations - but nobody knows exactly where they all fit togeher & and I would like to

have a bit more evidence and not rely on hearsay.So please - any help is gratefully received should anybody know of my Hildens.

 

Anyone knowing anything about a Family called SHAW in the area West of London(Berkshire/Oxon) please contact me.

A big hug to the creator of this site for their hard work and make sure you all behave with respect to them and others.

I have been figuring out the Gypsy trail from Oxford south to London for the overwintering which can give one an idea of where to look

for that elusive ancestor/family.Kusti Bokt indeed to everyone!

 

Steve Duke ,Thanks Steve for your kind comments hope you have some luck with your Shaw's ere any of them Fiddler's? as some well known one's and most of the Shaw's seem to have been good muscisians.CushtiBokt .

 

Can any one help me with travellers who stayed on Hartlebury Common or in and around Stourport ,in particular the Hodgkins/Coleman/Butler/Boswell and Smith families and also Watton thanks Tony.

 

Dear Site owner, Fantastic website!!

 

I have now been tracing my partner James' family for over 6 months on and off. He is a Buckland and his father got me interested

when he used to tell me that they had of Romany roots. Well what a fascinating time I have had tracing them. James is the great

great grandson of Emmanuel (Mantis) Buckland who married Susannah Coldicott. Susannah's father was William Coldicott

whose second wife (who became Susannah's step mother!) was Vashti Smith, daughter of Moses and Lucretia Smith. I am still

trying to find out whether William Coldicott was of traveller descent. Some records say he was but I am not sure?

Emmanuels father was also called Emmanuel (Mantis) Buckland who married his first cousin Sinfai Bukland, who was the daughter

of 'Ravishing' Billy Buckland, who I really would like to find more about. Following up from Emmanuel, his parents were John Buckland

& Sarah Heron and John's parents were William Buckland & Amey Hearn. This is as far as I have got, but believe me the amount

of ancestors connected with these Bucklands is amazing.

We met up with Jim Hayward and got some of his books, one being about James' great great great grandad himself. Jim was

most helpfull and we plan to go and see him again soon with our updated findings.

I would love to maybe find out more about these Buckland men and women. Hopefully contacting you and by other web visitors

reading this, I maybe able to find out more.Keep up the great work!!

 

Thankyou Anna for your lovely comments ,well thats a good Romany family and one that is quite well documented as you say and no doubt the Bucklands book were a big help one thing I would like to ask as their are several Mantis Emanuel Bucklands ,have you one that was wed to Aquilla .

 

Hello-- Looking for information on the Stanley family. Arrived in US in 1846 or so. Family consisted of Owen and Harriet, Levi and Matilda. They are buried a few miles from my home in Dayton, OH. I am not related, just interested.

 

Hi i just wondered if anyone has any info on a coralina/caroline smith b 1861 buckingham married thomas inns. We believe her father to be william smith and mother to be charlotte byles. Caroline went on to have a little girl by the name of  alice mary inns 1886 buckingham who married a george houghton.Alice houghton was well known round banbury oxfordshire as the "Duchess" and when she died her funeral was on tv and covered in many newspapers. Anyone with any advise or info about any names i've talked about please let me know. Thanks for you time.

 

hi there again.i have had areply from someone who saw your page and we are now looking for william birchb.about 1821 we think in jersey but cant be sure.he married charlotte ?and they had a son henry birch born1839 died 1893he married catherine westcott in plymouth in 1859.she died 1873,and then he marriedalice dymondb.18499.we think they are all connected with birches in the west country mainley south molten,barnstaple,holswothy,exeter etc.,they married into the penfolds,orchards,hughes, and irish taylors.the birches are a huge romany family and we would like any info anyone can give at all.1800 centuary we have connections in jersey channel islands,and new forest,southampton,and devon.1900 centuary mainly devon and a bit in somerset.site owner are you suki who emailed me before about the hughes??have you anything at all on biches as we are trying to tie it up.also becketts.joe beckett boxer and heavy weight champ of britain was the son of joe beckett and charlotte nee birch..i love your site on doset and somerset gypsys but i cant print it.any reason why or can you email me that [email protected]

 

Daer Sir or madam,

i have found this site realy useful while tracing back my gypsy relatives, my great Grandparents were Caroline and John HUGHES but you said his name was cooper, where did you get that infomatiopn from, i have only managed to get back to them though, my Grandmother was Diana TURNER nee HUGHES, a Gypsy Queen from POOLE, she died in 1999 one of 8 children, she married John TURNER in 1949 poole.Do you have any infomation on Caroline and John.  Thanks Daniel TUrner

 

TO SANDAR BUCKLAND, & ALL THE OTHER BUCKLAND'S OUT THERE!

   I'M DOROTHY CHAMBERS, MY MOM & DAD ARE BOTH BUCKLAND'S.  THERE FATHER'S WERE BROTHERS. THERE

GREAT GRAND PARENTS WAS TENAT& KAHIZ BUCKLAND. WE LIVE IN THE U.S.A. MY GRANDFATHERS WAS MARK&

PLATO BUCKLAND. THEY WERE BORN IN ENGLAND, PLYMOUTH.  MY GRANNY (MOM) WAS A SMALL HER GREAT GRAND

PARENTS WAS  MOSE&CAROLINE SMALL. I HAVE SEEN SOME ONE LOOKING FOR  THAT PART OF THE FAMLY. MY DAD MOM

WAS A DOE. THIS IS SO EXCITNG. I'M A FULL ROMANY. MY DAD CAN TELL A LOT ABOUT HIS FAMILY. NELSON  BUCKLAND

CAME  BACK TO ENGLAND TO LIVE  HE DIDN'T RETURN TO THE STATES. SANDAR, HOW ARE WE RELATED? THERE IS

SO MUCH I  WANT TO KNOW. ALSO HOW DIFFERENT IT  IS TO LIVE AS A ROMANY IN  ENGLAND. IT SEEM LIKE LIFE IS NOT

SO FREE FORE THE ROMANY THERE.IT' MORE FREE HERE FORE US THEN IT USE TO BE. WE HAVE TO LIVE MORE LIKE

GORGES NOW. BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DO FORE A LIVING. THERE ARE A LOT OF ROMANY HERE. SMALL'S ,STANLEY'

HARRISON TH