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hi my name is sonia iam looking for any one relatied to the rawlings from hampsire

my granmother Amelia rawlings was marreied to nathanial stacey he wa a chimney sweep

and amelia was a hawker. living in a tent in alton hampsire.

amelia father name was moses rawlings also a chimney sweep and he's wife was also  Amelia

also a pedler- hawker living on pedley common 1871.if anyone can add anything more please e-mail.

 

Lynda (Picture of Harriet Wells)bottom of Hampshire Pedlar Licences

 

Hi Sorry i do not know your last name.Is this the Harriet Wells (Hooper) who married my great grandfather Henry Wells.If  it is the one ,would like to

get in touch.Regards  Jenny.

 

John Gains or Gaines (c1815 (Kent or Sussex) - 1870 (Westwell Union Workhouse Ashford Kent). I have found him in 1851

and 1861 census. In 1851 he was living with Elizabeth Gambrill ( Gambrills well-known gypsy family of Kent) and 3 children.

In 1861 he was living with Elizabeth Newman in Rhodes Minnis - near Folkestone in Kent. I would like to find out where and

when he was born and who his parents were. The only time he gives his place of birth in the census it is "Medhurst Sussex".

I have searched Midhurst and Madehurst Parish Registers in Sussex and found nothing. He was a tinman, woodman, His

grandson spoke Romany. Website is great - loads of info.

 

Hi Has anybody any info on a James Wing born about 1860??. in Cambridgeshire.He was my Gr Grandad. The only info I have is the 1901 census living in Reading and married to Rhoda May( nee Moody) They had twin daughters Florence Annie and Constance Beatrice my Gran. James lived on campsite off Hosier Street Reading. and he was a member of  Freemasons. If anyone is related or has any info I will be truly grateful  Regards.

 

great site how do go about getting a photo on this this site there is one of the loveridges on gallery 1

 and there is also one in gallery 4 but it says unknown gypsys , its because i have loveridge on my mums side

and would love the pics thanks Dal

 

Hi,

 i was wondering if you could help me ..... all my family have passed awa so the only information i have is word of mouth, but for years my mother told me we were from romany stock and i do not know how to check..

my mothers mother was alice bridges born in fulham 1884... her father was james bridges  born 1844 hammersmith, later to live in notting dale ...thomas bridges 1775 shorditch above is the link to my family website      password   is hayes

 

Message for Claud regarding John Gains:

I have looked at Census records and John Gains ( Senior) died in 1870 West Ashford Kent

In 1871 Elizabeth his wife is in Elham kent Union workhouse with 10 children Henry 13,Martha 12, louisa11, thomas 10,Elizabeth 7 ( 1864 Elham) Jona 6 ( 1865 (Elham) Stephen 5 ( 1866 Elham)

Edward 4 ( 1867 Elham) John 2 ( 1869) (It seems they had 2 sons called John  1 born 1847 Barham kent and 1 born 1869 Folkstone kent)

missing from this Census are their 2 older children John born 1847 ( Wittersham Kent) in 1871Census Swingfield Elham Kent, he is lodging with family own a farm called  Henry  Elizabeth Childs both in their 70/80s

John ( eldest son) in 1881 Census is a inmate Kent Asylum aged 49 died there in 1884 aged 51

the other child missing is Harriet born 1851,

The youngest son John born 1869 folkstone I think was called Alfred John Gains in 1891 Census Sandgate Elham  FolkstoneKent with his wife eliza Hall with his wife 1901 he appears in Folkstone  St Michael and All Angels with  his wife eliza Hall from  Dover kenthope rthis helps you can't find anything about parents of john born 1815 but will continue to look sandy

 

Message for claud regarding john Gain

1841 Census Seven Oaks shoreham Kent John Gain born 1815 ( Kent) aged 15  Sarah Hearn born 1811 ( Kent) aged 30 no more information 1841 Census not very helpful only head count so can't tell you if mother & son or just related

 

I have been tracing my roots and have gone as far as I can, back to Sarah Lee, born in Caynham in Shropshire, 1827.  She was a gypsy I believe, and appears as the "mother-in law" of my grandfather in the 1901 census, living with the Hodges (including her daughter Jane), in the parish of Cleobury Mortimer, Shropshire aged 74. I cannot find any previous references to her, or anyother records.  I would be most grateful for any further information.

 

is there anyone out there who is looking up the perry connection as im trying to track down a william perrywho i know was a romany  all i know was he married a mary ann smith  where she comes from i don't know  but all i know was my gt gt gt grandfather travelled with the wests and the moores and he was some how connected to the william perry who was a bare knuckle   boxer called the tipton slasher he travelled with the fairs i think.?

he says on the 1851 census he was born in ragley or bagley leicester and in the 1861 census he says he was born in nottingham. i know it tells you about the perrys moores and wests in the romany routes book you can get but its volume 1 ,2,3 or 4 the ones you can no longer get hold of. please please someone  help me if you can ??

 

Help !  I have a copy of my Grandmothers Birth Certificate Ann Sophia Birch 8th December 1904 .Her Fathers name was James Birch - Licenced Hawker , Mothers Name Fiance Birch . However , Fiances maiden name is unclear and even though I have tried to make a few educated guesses , it would be great if someone out there can positively  identify her . Thanks , Jackie .

 

Hercules Stanley "King...

Hercules Stanley "King of the Gypsies". I research the local history of Martin in Hampshire (formerly in Wiltshire until 1895) and have found a written record describing a spectacular monument that stood in the churchyard to the mid 1800's when it was laid flat by the kick of a horse that roamed into the churchyard! The monument has long since vanished. I would welcome any information that would prove this story to be true. Thank you.

 

In reply to Nicola hanneys post - i have more info and a picture of alice innes and her husband George houghton and can put you in touch with other houghtons from this line. Can she contact me for more info?

 

Dear Sarah mcqueen,

I would love to see the photo you have of my great grandmother Alice inns also please email me for any info you may need at [email protected]

 

Hi, i have traced my gypsy genes back to jasper smith 1749 also known as king of the fiddlers. After recently reading both of terence lee's books i was struck by the comment made by lee, that he has a hypothesis that jasper is a brother or brother inlaw to a constance smith who he believes is grandmother to the infamous jasper petrulengro ( ambrose smith ), i was wondering if anyone out there has come across this line in their research. It would be great to get confirmation of this connection or info to put me on the right track to discover it for myself. Email me at [email protected]

 

Thank god for this wonderful site!

WHAT A FANTASTIC SITE. I HAVE BEEN TRACING MY FAMILY TREE FOR A WHILE BUT HAVE GOT STUCK ON MY MOTHERS SIDE OF THE FAMILY. SINCE MY MOTHER DIED I HAVE FOUND AN ASSORTMENT OF CERTIFICATES BUT MY GRANDMOTHERS MAIDEN NAME IS A MYSTERY

I BELIEVE IT TO BE SMITH (ESTHER) BUT IT COULD ALSO HAVE BEEN BOSWELL. THE ONLY INFO I HAVE IS THAT MY GRANDMOTHER ONCE LIVED AS A CHILD IN A CARAVAN ON FANNY ON THE HILL IN WELLING KENT THERE IS ALSO A CONNECTION WITH FRUIT AND VEG SHOPS IN THE WELLING AREA (SMITHS) ANY ONE WITH ANY INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED

 

Hello there, i am most grateful for all the help i have had so far from this site but the other side of the family is still frustrating me and i was wondering if any of these names sound familiar to anyone.

My grandmother was callled Priscilla cole, born 1916, southampton area.

Amazingly her birth was registered and according to the certificate her parents were William cole and Phyllis Cooper(i beleive the name to be something other than this , i think she may have been known as this).

Her siblings names were Celia, Brittannia,Sammy Bobby, Faney, Harry, Mary, and Billy and of course  Priscilla giving a total of 9 children.

Do any of these Cole children sound familiar to anyone please? REBECCA

 

 

i am trying to trace my wifes family they are james day her g grandfather he was born in wedhampton in wiltshire in the 1881 census he is living in a stawrick with a alice turner in the 1891 he is living in a gypsy tent that is the last i can trace them i think james day  was the son of thomas and susan day from wedhampton wiltshire  the best d.o.b i can give for james day is 1853. the only information i have on the family is that they changed the family name from day to turner about 1900 for no apparent reason if any one can help i would be very gratful

to rodger . my great...

 

to rodger . my great grandmother was susan day who married henry turner. there is a picture of henry turner on this site in the galley and a picture of his son dennis barton turner who is my granny ivorys brother. susan day is buried at woodgreen . it would be good if you would contact me [email protected] as i am very interested in my turner line regards selina turner

 

Hi does anyone out there know of the Eliotts my grt grandad was Solomon Elliott if you have any information l would really appreciate it

 

Hi -   we believe my husband is a direct descendant of Jasper Smith and Catherine(Kitty) Beetles and we have extensive records taken from census,IGI and other sites. We can personally verify back to his gt gt grandmother Reservoy Smith b c 1820 who lived to be 102. Then to her mother Ann ( we believe her maiden name was Biles) lived to be 109 and is buried in Astwood cemetary, Worcester. We think that Ann was the wife of John(Shadrack) Smith b 1803 to Wisdom Smith and Elizabeth Gentle. Reservoy married a Thomas Fletcher who was recorded on the children's birth certs as a Tinman/Brazier. The last child recorded is Wisdom Fletcher b 1867 in Rugby

 

My husband's Gt Grandmother Damaris (Rose) Fletcher  b 1861, was married to Henry Hull but they were known as Strickland for the purposes of their business which was as travelling showpeople. They owned a traction engine called "the Pride of Worcester" which ran galloopers and light shows throughout the Midlands from 1860's through to approx. 1930.

I cannot track Thomas Fletcher anwhere in the census records and I only see Reservoy in the 1891 and 1901 census when she was undoubtedly a widow.I would welcome any help/comments - preferable to "[email protected]" to help me research further. Thanks - this site looks fantastic but in my old age my computer skills are quite limited.

 

HI, MY NAME IS JEFF COOPER, MY PARENTS NAMES WERE MAURICE AND MABLE COOPER. WE LIVED ON SHAVE GREEN COMPOUND UNTIL 1963, AND WERE ONE OF THE LAST FAMILIES TO BE MOVED OFF. I AM ONE OF EIGHT CHILDREN, WE LIVED IN A BLUE BIRD CARAVAN, AND A  CONVERTED BUS WITH COREGATED TIN ADJOINING THE TWO. WE HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR PICTURES OF SHAVE GREEN FOR SOME TIME HOPING THAT THE BUS ETC WOULD BE AMONG THEM BUT TO OUR DISAPOINTMENT AS YET WE HAVENT FOUND ANY, EVEN THOUGH THE PICTURES ON THIS SITE HAVE BOUGHT BACK LOTS OF MEMORIES AND OLD FACES! IF ANYONE KNOWS OF, OR HAS ANY MORE PICTURES OF SHAVE GREEN AROUND THE LATE 50`S OR EARLY 60`S IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THEM ON THIS SITE. AN AMAZING SITE, MUCH APPRECIATED KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!

 

HI, JEFF COOPER HERE, JUST THOUGHT ABOUT ADDING MY EMAIL ADDRESS FOR PICTURES OF SHAVE GREEN, LATE 50`S EARLY 60`S. [email protected], THANX.

 

6/11/07 Perth Western Australia

Looking for information on an Amy Cooper who 'married' a Lawrence Dighton .

Lawrence & Amy Dighton had twin girls in June 1872 Dartford Common Kent- Clara (twin 1) & Isabella (twin2)

Amy Cooper Dighton died 1873 at Plumstead Common Kent of Scarlett Fever .According to her death certificate she was 23 years @ time of her death - hence born +/- 1849/1850 -parents unknown. Lawrence (aka Belcher ) Dighton also died 1873 of Small Pox.

Does anyone have an Amy Cooper 'missing' in their family tree? Does anyone know what happened to Clara Dighton (dob 8/6/1872) -1st twin daughter of Amy & Lawrence Dighton? We believe that she went to Canada after the 1881 census  (last known documentation found in England of her)? Any help - much appreciated. Cheers - Elizabeth Visser (Lee)

 

How sad they both died so young Liz ,I hope someone can help shed some light on the children I think Clara iis in the 1881 in some kind of school or orphanage Cushti Bok .

 

Hi Can anyone help trying to find the parents of Eliza Ann Lee born Eversley Hampshire 1851   I know her Aunty was Georgiena Lee daughter of Charles Lee born 1795 Surrey   Georgeina married Wellington Draper  in Eversley        On Eliza Anns Marriage certificate 1871 Reading Berkshire it says her fathers name was William   BUT  I CANNOT FIND HIM ANYWHERE  please can anyone help Regards Jane

 

8/11/07 Perth Western Australia

Hello - another call for help.Looking for information on an Emily Amor who 'married' (no offical record found) a Hezekiah Lee (aka Old Joe  / Joseph Lee).They travelled around Kent majority of their lives.

According to 1861 & 1871 census Kent - Emily (Amor) Lee was born Harefield MDX ~ +/- 1835-1839 -ish.

Known children are the following: Agnes (1861-1867), Eliza (~1865), Priscilla (~1868), Rose Elly (1870-1871), Thomas (1873), ?? Isaac (~1876),Fairnetti / Fenetti (1881 - born Surrey). All other children born in Kent, except Farnetti /Fenetti (1881 Surrey).Emily (Amor) Lee died 1920 Hayes Kent , Hezekiah Lee died 1923 Eltham Kent. Both are buried at West Wickham Kent.We know nothing about Emily Amor Lee  ie: date of birth & parents (etc).Any information on the Amor Gypsies -much appreciated.Cheers-Elizabeth Visser (Lee) p/s -great site

 

Hi Alex.

  Just seen your mesage about  the Wheelers and the Does. My name is Michael Doe. In our family we have a Annie Doe born1889 in Hampshire she had two children by Sydney Pateman, she left him and married aWheeler ( no Christian name, sorry) Her son Edward was adopted by her brother John Jack Doe and his wife Betsy. If this is of help contact me on [email protected]  

         

Hi,I am related to gypsies through my Grandmother Mary Ann James born in 1895 in Greenwich,and my Grandfather Jonathan Ellis born in 1893 in Erith Kent..I would like you to try and find James James born in 1873 or 4 And his wife Alvinea Eastwood Breeds born 1876 in Bromley Kent.

They Married in 1896 in Strood  Kkent. But I have not found them on the 1901 census. As I know they lived in Caravans I do believe they missed the census. Alvinea parents were John Breeds born 1851 in Madstone and Alvina Eastwood born 1857 in Brastead, they never married.  Thanyou very much, Carol Kent.

CAROL i found Alvina in the cnsus as a widow with 3 children and a widow and then she appears with James James and g/dau Alvina in the 1901

1881DARTFORD KENT*Street address: In Caravan Spring Vale *

Elvina Breeds 28 b Brasted, Kent hd widow gen/dealer  Harriet Breeds b Dartford, Kent/ Joseph Breeds 3 b Dartford, Kent  /Brittania Breeds 10 b Hoo, Kent * /Brittania Breeds 23 wife /John Breeds 7 NEPHEW /Seaman Breeds 27 head gen/dealer