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Although not in any direct line of my research as such ,the Buckland family did however form many unions with most of the Romany familie's who were in England from very early on in our history.
The reason for a seperate page was because of necessity! as I had so many folks who are descended from Plato and Tennant and further back ,Timothy Dimiti & (doctor) Buckland and another Timothy(turnip) Buckland that I needed a page at least to cover them!. From various articles in the JGLS and from various family members and also:- Jim Haywards excellent set of books details below.
TRAVELLERS & FAIRKEEPERS (Fom the Cotswolds & Vale Of The White Horse To Regions Beyond)
Jim Hayward (SERIES OF SIX BOOKS.)
Part 1 THE BUCKLAND FAMILY "THEIR KITH & KIN" A4(44)Pages
Part 2 ABRAHAM BUCKLAND & and his Children A4 (32)Pages
Part 3 MANTIS BUCKLAND His Kin and their Associates A4(32)Pages
Part 4 ALIBON SMITH "Some of his tribe" With Addenda/Revisions A4 (36)Pages
Part 5 THE SPURRETTS Their Families & Associates.
Part 6 ADDENDA & REVISIONS to parts one to five(28 A 4 Pages)
Limited number available signed & numbered,soft cover stapled.
(These were a Limited self publication so you would need to check if they are still available)
Excellent Genealogical data for any one with Buckland Ancestors and also Smith's once again! Jim has pieced together the major Buckland Line's and followed through with the many marriages between the Smith's,Shaws and many other Romany families and has also given credit to Terrence Lee where due.
The family that has still to be all connected although its pretty certain that they are as the same names appear in each generation
are the families of Plato and Thennant ,so far I have come across 7 Plato's the earliest being born 1788 also a Pleasant male ?
b 1744 son of Emanuel(Mantis Buckland and Aquillla Draper) Emanuel I think being a name that derives from marriage between the Hearn/heron family earlier on(thats another story!!)
Several members of the Buckland and related Stanley families went back and forth to America in the mid 1850's and I have been helped by a family member who sent me this interesting article bout some of the family whilst in the USA.:-
Here is a Paper Report dated 1890 Salt Lake Utah Titled life in a Gypsy Camp
Camped on the wooded height back of Fort Lee, just across the river from New York City, It is a novel experience while walking along the Palisades to come suddenly upon the white tents and covered wagons. Views from the Palisades magnificent, see Hudson for miles up and down, metropolis, sail-flecked waters of the sound, rising slopes of Long Island. On a Sunday place becomes picnic ground for toilers ( workers) from New York. Steamers and ferryboats set down their human freights at the little dock all day. Dancing pavilions, refreshment booths, merry-go-rounds well patronized.
It is natural that lovers should find way to gypsies camp, have fortunes told. For rest of week gypsies left pretty much to selves, visit camp Monday and you will find the women washing, dogs and babies rolling on grass, men strolling about grove with short pipes in teeth, eye on horses, men have little to say to strangers, When a boy I knew a Romany named Robert Wells born 1800. I regarded him with admiration, though I thought no doubt he was a rascal, his memory served to introduce me to the Fort Lee gypsies. When they learned I knew old Bob now 90, I was welcomed at once, These Gypsies had been in USA only 4 years The camp consisted of Tenet Buckland [Bucklin] his wife their 5 sons and families in all some group of size 30 persons, with 7 horses dogs a green parrot and excellent road outfit. The youngest son bears name of Plater Buckland probably after his remote ancestor [Plato Buckland] of whom the song relates:
Two Romany fellows were banished afar
Far away over the dark rolling sea
Lasho for robbing
And Plato for fobbing
The purse of a lady as great as could be
And when they came to the far-away land
The land that is over the dark rolling sea
One came to the Halter
But one at the altar
Soon married a lady as fair as could be
Would you like to know who the lady was?
Twas the lady whose purse he had stolen D'ye see?
For the chap had an eye
Black, witch-like and sly
And she followed him over the dark rolling sea.
Buckland is a man of more than ordinary intelligence and talks freely if you win his confidence, I asked if fortune telling is as profitable as before, No he responded with a twinkle , people know too much these days, We are all musicians, we entertain crowds with fiddle, can make $10-20 on a Sunday.
A gypsy can do a little of everything can shoe a horse, doctor a cow, mend a kettle, make baskets, clean a clock, snare birds and rabbits, sell a horse. Men and Women wear good clothes; there's strips of carpet and abundance of bedding in tents, food wholesome, cooking utensils clean, wagons are marvels of strength and convenience. Wagon body widens sufficiently above wheels to admit crossway's of a bunk with springs and mattress. Sleeping compartment in rear, shut off by curtains, forward are seats and lockers surrounding an open space, where in stormy weather a meal can be cooked and eaten in comfort. No people are neater and cleaner in many things than the gypsies.
Always wash table clothes in separate vessels, women careful not to let skirt of dress touch a pan containing food, since it would afterward to be considered unfit for consumption, For months after childbirth the mother is debarred from preparing food, Burial; we bury our dead in a cemetery wherever we happen to be, they are always kind to them. No gypsy would have his dead cremated. Garments of deceased generally burned, family fast, a mother in some instances never eats again the favourite dishes of her son. Religion : You will find gypsies who are roman Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, Heathens, Marriage : Intermarriages with non Gypsies do and always will occur while human passions last. But we have our family pride and the Romany whose blood is pure is honored. I had my fortune told before Leaving.
ANOTHER ARTICLE :-
At lower Winchendon Buckinghamshire by Rev T Hayton , John Fletcher was wed to Teanaah Buckland daughter of Edward Buckland, head of a tribe of Gypsies, who have long frequented this part of Buckinghamshire
After the ceremony the party retired to a lane adjoining the village where they part took of a excellent dinner served partly on solid plate & part China. The novelty of such a Banquet attracted a great number of respectable spectators
Article sent in by Sandy Buckland
CITY & SUBURAN NEWS August 9th 1886
A band of 26 gypsies from Cornwall, landed at Castle Garden yesterday. The gypsies were as a rule young lusty fellows, dressed In bright colored clothing. Their chief was DAVID BUCKLAND , their liutenant was JAMES STANLEY, of the tribe STANLEY Which owns a large tract of land in Ohio. The gypsies were well supplied with money and were allowed to land at Castle Garden.They were traveling on the White Star Steamship Germanic which arrived yesterday from Liverpool.
I shan't go into the Genealogies as that would take too many pages ! and for another reason its so complicated !! It twists and turns through nearly every Romany family there is ! I do have much more info on the family if anyone wants to contact me privately I will do my best to help. Getting back to the Buckland family that went back and forth to the USA , there seems to be
some confusion as to exactly how ofetn they did go back and forth! but from what can be gleaned from Passenger Lists and family information ,plus of course the Census and Parish records. According to the 1881 Census Nelson was born in the USA.
1881* Census, RG11-2217-137-55 Tavistock, Devon.
Tenant Buckland 63 Bristol Somerset Head Hawker
Kesiah Buckland 61 Bath Somerset Wife Hawker
Edith Smith 2 Bristol Somerset Daughter Hawker
Wisdom Smith 33 Bristol Somerset Son in Law Hawker
Nelson Buckland 23 America Son in Law Hawker
Betsey Buckland 38 Bristol Somerset Daughter Hawker
Henry Buckland 17 Truro Cornwall Son Hawker
Plato Buckland 15 Plymouth Devon Son Hawker
Moses Buckland 14 Dartmouth Devon Son Hawker
Esther Buckland 13 Kingsbridge Devon Daughter Hawker
Betsey Buckland 16 Truro Cornwall Daughter
Eliza Buckland 6 Plymouth Cornwall Granddaughter
Anne Buckland 18 Bodmin Cornwall Granddaughter
Sophy Smith1 Birmingham Granddaughter
Nelson Smith 3 Weeks Callington Cornwall Grandson
In Caravans Pethericks Ground Bannerock St."
1891* Census, RG12-1807-32-10 St Germans, Cornwall.
Thennant Buckland 41 Oxfordshire Trav/Hawker (Gipsy)
Kezia Buckland 36 DevonshireWife
Edif Buckland 28 Bristol Daughter
Nelson Buckland 30 St Austel, Cornwall Son
Thomas Buckland 26 United States Son Hawker
Henry Buckland 23 Bodmin, Cornwall Son
Betsy Buckland 21 Newquay, Cornwall Daughter
Esther Buckland 18 Dartmouth, Devon Daughter
Moses Buckland 16 Torquay, Devon Son Hawker
Treskelly Bridge in Caravans."
1901* Census, RG13-2189-87-34 St Stephens, Cornwall,.
Nalson Buckland 46 N. K. Head Horse Dealer
Bessie Buckland 50 N. K. Wife
Ayne Buckland 22 Holsworthy Devon Daughter
Jane Buckland 19 Plympton, Devon Daughter
Edith Buckland 17 Liskeard, Cornwall Daughter
Jamie Buckland 14 United States Son
Moses Buckland 12 United StatesSon
Willie Buckland 7 Yealmpton Devon Son
Caravan & Tent, Village Green."
1881* Census, RG11-2186-56-1 Yealmpton, Devon.caravan
Plato Buckland 40 head NK, Oxfordshire Horse dealer
Betsy Buckland 38 NK, Devon Wife
Genty Buckland 17 NK, Cornwall Daughter Brush Hawker
Joshua Buckland 15 NK, Cornwall Son Brush Hawker
Sophia Buckland 13 NK, Devon Daughter Brush Hawker
Keziah Buckland 11 NK, Somerset Daughter
Tryphena Buckland 9 NK, Warwickshire Daughter
Caroline Buckland 7 NK, Cornwall Daughter
Eliza Buckland 4 Devon Daughter
Selina Buckland 2 Mnths Yealmpton, Devon Daughter
Buckland : Marriages
James buckland M Amelia Lee 1851 Exeter
Ann Buckland M James Harris 1864 Taunton
Nelson Buckland M Betsey Smith 1874 Plymouth
Jenty Buckland M William Penfold 1887 Plymouth
Sophy Buckland M James Penfold 1887 Plymouth
Moses Buckland M Genty Stanley 1891 Tavistock
Henry Buckland M Harriet Penfold 1896 Plympton Devon
Eliza Buckland M Nelson James 1899 Liskeard
Alfred John Buckland M Emily Faith Smith 1901 Plymouth
Pheobe Buckland M Alfred Jago 1901 Tavistock
Thomas Buckland M Lilly Jeffery 1901 Tavistock
Arthur Buckland M Elizabeth Bebe 1903 Taunton
Jane Buckland M Fred Stone 1903 Taunton
Ann Buckland M William Cooper 1904 Kingsbridge
Carrie Buckland M Henry Cooper 1905 St Austell
Jim Buckland M Pheobe Stanley 1908 Totnes
Jenty Buckland M Fredrick Searle 1909 Kingsbridge
Mose Buckland M Jenny Stanley 1910 Kingsbridge
Leanor Buckland M Thomas westlake 1910 Liskeard
1851* Kilmerston Somerset
Thomas Buckland 54(JEFFS)(First wife a Buckland)
Sarah Buckland (Also a previous union with a Buckland)
Edith Jeffs 18 Niece
Misselle Buckland 17
Platen Buckland 13
Matthew Buckland 6 ( Jeffs )
(Thanks to T LEE for additional info )11/2/2009
1881*St George, Gloucestershire
Address: 19 Green Bank Rd
Mathew Jeffs Head 35 Oxford City, Oxfordshire,
May A Jeffs Wife 34 Ludlow, Shropshire,
Thomas J Jeffs Son 9 St Philips Bristol, Glo
Henry J Jeffs Son 7 Wells, Somerset,
William Jeffs Son 5 St Couthbert Wells
Elizabeth Jeffs Daughter1 St Georges, Gloucestershire,