S.J.DAY
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The West Country Families obviously have many connections to the Dorset and Hampshire Romanies as well as Wiltshire and Berkshire, all bordering one another these families were travelling back and forth and married into each other's families many times .A good example being the Penfold /Orchard/Davis/Hughes/Saunders and many more ,so I will try and give a brief outline and various snippets to illustrate this.
During the course of my research I have come across many lines that have have criss crossed from one family to anoyther many times and in the course of this also various names they used for example in the 1871 Census for Chipstable Somerset Robert Hughes along with his wife Sarah Davis were using the surname Jones (another Romany family also connected) the following 1881 and 1891 they are using the Hughes surname again it is the same family as the childrens names and ages all match up,see below :-
Some of the main families who seem to have centered in Somerset, Devon and Cornwall but also Dorset and all the bordering
Conties are, Burton/Isaacs/Penfolds/Small/Orchards/Hughes/ Davis to name a few, and as they married into one another many times it can be very confusing when trying to pin point what "Noah" or Leonard belongs to who! The Hughes and Penfolds were also in Dorset and Hampshire as well and seemed to travell all the South west Counties but I have also found them in London at times no doubt visiting relatives in the big Gypserie's at Wandsworth or Battersea . Like some of the Small family who settled in Devon and yet were at some point in the Channel Islands!so you really do have to search all Counties and even Countries for your folki!!
1871 Census RG10-2359-42-17 Chipstable Somerset.
Name Age Birthplace Relationship
Robert Jones 52 Honiton, Devon, Head Travelling Gipsies
Sarah Jones 48 Gloucestershire, Wife
Charles Jones 25 Chard, Somerset, Son
Robert Jones 20 Curry Rival, Somerset Son
Joey Jones 16 Honiton, Devon, Son
Tilly Jones 12 Devon, Daughter
Fiance Jones 10 Devon, daughter
Vashty Jones 7 Bishops Lydeard, Somerset Daughter
John Jones 6 Wellington, Somerset Son
Lenard Jones 3 Honiton, Devon, Son
Sarah Jones 1 Williton, Somerset, Daughter
Caroline Radman 28 Somerset, Daughter
Henry Radman 5 Langford, Somerset, Grandson
in Tents, Old Way."
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1881 British CensusDwelling: Hawkwell Cross 2 (Caravan)
Census Place: Dulverton, Somerset
Source: FHL Film 1341567 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2358 Folio 63
Robert HUGHS M 60 Honiton, Devon, Occ: Licensed Hawker
The Jones family Dorset (Courtesy Philpot Museum Lyme Regis
Sarah HUGHS M 58 Rel: Wife Occ: Licensed Hawkers Wife
Robert HUGHS U son 28 Langport, Somerset Occ: Basket Maker
Joseph HUGHS son U 26 Honiton, Devon Occ: Basket Maker
Tilla HUGHS dau U 22 Taunton, Somerset,
Fiance HUGHS dau U 20 Honiton, Devon
Bashte HUGHS dau U 18 Taunton, Somerset
John HUGHS son U 16 Wellington, Somerset Occ: Basket Maker
Lenard HUGHS 14 son Honiton, Devon
Sarah HUGHS dau 11 Wellington, Somerset
Robert PEARCE M 52 Taunton, Somerset Lodger Occ Decorator
Henry C. OATEN 39 Taunton, Somerset Rel Lodger Occ Decorator
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1891 Census, RG12-1677-20-11
Name Age Birthplace Relationship Civil parish/County
Hughes Robert 69 Honiton, Devon Head Aylesbeare Devon
Hughes Sarah 63 Gloucestershire Wife Aylesbeare Devon
Hughes Joseph 36 Gloucestershire Son Aylesbeare Devon
Hughes Leonard 24 Offwell, Devon Son Aylesbeare Devon
Hughes Sarah 21 Wellington, Somerset Daughter Aylesbeare Devon.
As yet I have been unable to locate the above family in the earlier Census ? has anyone ?if so maybe you can help me further :-
The Jones family who married into the Hughes family were obviously already connected and seems why Robert above was using the surname in 1871.
Robert Jones b 1851 was the son of Robert jones and possibly Diana Bull I found a marriage for them in 1847 Newbury Berks,however Robert also had another later Bull wife who was with him in the 1901 Census:- Update**i now think this is another Robert and not the same one as was with Keziah Bull!! the Robert Jones aka Hughes was married to Sarah Davis so help anyone??
1901 Census, RG13-1119-6-3 Baughurst Hampshire.
Robert Jones 83 Bucklebury, Berkshire Head Hawker
Keziah Jones 61 Salisbury, Wiltshire Wife Hawker
Stoney Heath Kingsclere."
Son of Robert above married Priscilla Hughes in 1872 Binstead Hampshire see Census below:-
1881 Census, RG11-2093-62-35 Wimborne Minster.
Robert Jones 35 Not Known Head Gipsy Hawker
Priscilla Jones34 Not Known Wife Gipsy Hawker
Susan Jones 8 Not Known Daughter Gipsy
Rhoda Jones 6 Not Known Daughter Gipsy
Charles Jones3 Not Known Son Gipsy
Diana Jones 1 Not Known Daughter
William Jones16 Not Known Servant Hawker
Tent, Barnsley Drove
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1891 Census, RG12-951-113-5 Wield, Hampshire.
Jones, Robert 38 Bucklebury Head Dealer
Jones, Priscilla 39 Cranbourne Wife
Jones, Susan 17 Binstead, Hampshire Daughter
Jones, Rhoda 15 Stoke Daughter
Jones, Charles 13 Cranbourne Son
Jones, Diana 9 Wield, Hampshire Daughter
Jones, Priscilla 5 Wield, Hampshir Daughter
Jones, Robert 2 Wield, Hampshire Son
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1901 Census, RG13-1099-120-5 Wield, Hampshire.
Robert Jones 47 Baughurst, Hampshire Head Genl Dealer
Priscilla Jones 49 Blandford, Dorset Wife Hawker
Susan Jones 27 Binsted, Hampshire Daughter Hawker
Rhoda Jones 25 Chichester, Sussex Daughter
Priscilla Jones 15 Chertsey, Surrey Daughter
Robert Jones 13 Wield, Hampshire Son
Henry Jones 6 Wield, Hampshire Son
Edward Hughes 25 Sherborne, Dorset nephew Deaf & Dumb."
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1851 Census., HO107-1878-12-17 Plymouth St Andrew.
Name Age Birthplace Relationship Occupation
Moses Small 50 Dorset, Head Tinker
Cinderella Small 50 Dorset, Wife (Nee Cooper)
Jonas Small 22 Dorset, Son Basket Maker
Moses Small 13 Somerset, Son
Uriah Small 11 Exminster Son
Gully Small 9 Devon, Son
Henry Small 7 Devon, Son
Angelina Small 5 Devon, Daughter
Kinity Small 3 Devon, Daughter
Louisa Small 1 Mnth Devon, Daughter
84 Stonehouse Lane
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1881 Census, RG11-2165-46-28 Wolborough, Devon.
(They also had a Henry b 1857)married Cinderella)
(not shown is Joshua b 1863 wed Patience Orchard)
Moses Small 44 Taunton Head Horse Dealer
Caroline Small 44 Honiton, Devon Wife Brush Dealer
Sophia Small 24 dau Newton Abbot (Married George Silmon)
Margaret (Marcella) Small 17 Plymouth Dau (mar William Voisey)
Louisa Small 16 Plymouth, Devon, Dau(mar William Hutchins)
Market St Caravan No 1, Next to Henry & Cinderella Small."
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1891 Census, RG12-1682-9-12 St Thomas, Devon.
Small, Moses 56 Taunton, Somerset Head Horse Dealer
Small, Caroline 55 Wellington, Somerset Wife
Small, Eliza 8 Newton Abbot Dau (wed/ Henry Stanley)
Small, Naylor 16 Torpoint, Cornwall Son
Small, Moses 15 Newton Abbot, Devon Son
Small, Belcher12 Newton Abbot Son (Mar/ Patience Orchard)
Small, John 9 St Thomas, Devon Son
1901 Census, RG13-2038-7-6 St Thomas, Devon.
Name Age Birthplace Relationship Ocupation
Moses Small 65 Taunton, Somerset, Head Horse Dealer
Naylor Small 29 Darpont, Cornwall Son Horse Dealer
John Small 20 St Thomas Exeter Devon Son Horse Dealer
Eliza Silmon 15 St Thomas Exeter Devon Granddaughter
Princess St North, Exeter.
RG11-2358-112-14 Huish Champflower Dulverton Somerset
Edward aged 40 born 1841 Pitminster
Sophia aged 34 born 1844 NK
Affiana aged 14 born 1867 NK
Sarah aged 12 born 1869 NK
Peter aged 11 born 1870 NK
Henry aged 10 born 1871 NK
Samuel aged 4 born 1877 NK
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1871 census RG10-2167-70-11 Langford green In Vans
With Edwin Orchard is family also Orchards
Thomas Orchard 39 Hawker of brushes & baskets b Salisbury Wilts
Charlotte 33 Wife born Devizes wilts
Ann S 8 Culmstock Devon
John 5 Pitminster somerset
Defiance 3 Dalwood Devon
Edwin 1mth Wellington somerset
(This is Edward Orchard who married Christiana Woodley Hunt)
Edward Orchard born 1795 Baydon Wiltshire 1881 Census RG11-2363-9--11In Culmstock Hillmoor Wellington Devon
Widow aged 86 Basket maker ( on his own)Edward Orchard 1796-1888 died aged 92 Wellington Somerset
1861 CENSUS*RG9/Vans, Gillingham, Wiltshire
James Isaacs 38 Licensed Hawker All born Dorset Marnel?
Trinity 36 Licensed Hawker
Henery 16 Licensed Hawker
Jane 14 Licensed Hawker
Allace 12
Delia 10
John 8
Mary 6
Betsey 4
Lewesa 3
Victoria 1
Anna 4mo
Henery Isaacs brother 36 Licensed Hawker
Harriet 30
James 3?
Caraline 4
Ellen 2
Could "Marnel" be Marnhull, Dorset? In 1851 theres an Edward Isaacs, age 29 Matmaker b. Dorset Marnhull, a prisoner in North Street County Prison, Lewes, Sussex. Brother of James and Henery maybe? HO107/1643 Folio 482 Page 61
1871* Penselwood Somerset
Agusta Isaacs 2 b Penselwood, Somerset
Annie Isaacs 10 b Purse Caundle, Dorset
Delilah Isaacs 21 lic/hawker b Everton, Dorset
Elizabeth Isaacs 18 b Mere, Wiltshire
James Isaacs 48 Horse dealer b Broad Hinton, Wiltshire
John Isaacs 16 b Sturminster, Dorset
Louisa Isaacs13 b Bere Regis, Dorset
Mary Ann Isaacs15 b Penselwood, Somerset
Morris Isaacs 7 b Penselwood, Somerset
Sampson Isaacs 5 b Penselwood, Somerset
Thomas Isaacs 9 b Bourton, Dorset
Tranet Isaacs 47 b Thatcham, Berkshire
Victoria Isaacs 11 b Bourton, Dorset
1881 CENSUS*Penselwood Somerset
James Harding 77 Harwell, Berks F/ IN LAW Pedler (widow)
Arabella Isaacs 20 pedler
Augusta Isaacs 12 pedler
Delilah Isaacs 30 pedler
James Isaacs 59 b Broad Hinton, WiltshireHorse Dealer
Janet Isaacs 57 Horse Dealer Wife
Mary Ann Isaacs 25 pedler
Morris Isaacs17 Horse Dealer
Samson Isaacs15 Horse Dealer
Thomas Isaacs19Horse Dealer
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1891 CENSUS.Stoke Trister : Somerset
(WITH OTHER HAWKERS HICKS AND ISAACS)
Frederick Askett17 Lodger b Gillingham, Dorset
Annie M Hicks8 gran/daughter b Newbury, Berkshire
Augusta Isaac 22 b Leigh Common Somerset
James Isaac69 b Broad Hinton, Wiltshire
Janet Isaac67 b Thatchem Berks
Samson Isaac25