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As the Enumerators didn't have to record Gypsies in the 1841, there is no real way of knowing the numbers of Gypsies in Wales prior to 1851, apart of course from baptismal entries found in Parish records and other records etc.
1851 has the family of Major Lovell son of old Slack Lovell, b Gloucestershire ?However I found his baptism as follows :-
MAJOR LOVEL Christening:11 JAN 1821 Shenstone, Stafford, Parents: Father: WILLIAM LOVEL (Slack ?) Mother: SARAH
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1851*Town: Carmarthen County: Carmarthenshire : Wales
Major Lavell 30 B Glos Cutler
Hanna Lavell 27 b Birmingham Staffordshire
William Lavell 2 b Carmarthen Carmarthenshire
John Lavell 2 Mo b Carmarthen Carmarthenshire
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There were several Lovells born Somerset and Gloucestershire ,however none appeared to be Gypsies so was Major the first to go into Wales? The total figure for all variations of the Lovell spellings was only 100 in 1851 and a 150 in 1861.
The 1861Census for Wales finds Slack's other son Thomas :-
1861*Bray, Carmarthenshire
Thomas Lovel 40 hd Widow b Bromyard, Herefordshire/Grinder
Charlot Lovel 18 daughetr b Newport, Monmouthshire
Winsor Lovel 10 son b Bray, Carmarthenshire
Lignumwhity Lovel 9 daughter b Newton, Glamorgan
There is a Arclus age 14( could be Majors son Arty? staying with a Smith family)
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1861*Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
Benjamin Smith 30 hd Basket maker b Gloucestershire
Anne Smith 27 wife b St Brides, Glamorgan
Elizabeth Smith 12 dau b Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
William Smith 10 son b Llanelly, Breconshire
Joseph Smith 8 son b Dudley, Staffordshire
Edward Smith 4 son b Newbridge Glamorgan
Elvira Smith 2 dau b Roath Glamorgan
Hariett Lovell 55 lodger b Leicestershire England
Arclus Lovell 14 lodger b Dudley Staffs
John Lovell 10 lodger b Dudley Staffs
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1851*Llantrithyd, Glamorgan
Daniel Lovel abt 1801 Hollin Glamorgan Head Tin/Man/basket/maker
Louisa Lovel abt 1811 Hollin, Glamorgan, Wife
Isreal Lovel abt 1831 Hollin, Glamorgan, Son
Urrenia Lovel abt 1833 Hollin Glamorgan daughter
Powell Lovel abt 1834 Hollin Glamorgan Son
Raily Lovel abt 1836 Hollin Glamorgan Son
Peoda Lovel abt 1839 Hollin Glamorgan Son
Alfred Lovel abt 1841 Hollin Glamorgan Son
John Lovel abt 1846 Hollin Glamorgan Son
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1861* Northfield, Worcestershire
Spencer Lovll abt 1831 Stourbridge Head
Abbeslia Lovll abt 1836 Northhorngton Wife
Sinderla Lovll abt 1849 Monmouth Daughter
Alfred Lovll abt 1851 Worcestershire Son
Boiler Lovll abt 1857 Rowley Regis Daughter
Froser Lovll abt 1859 Halesowen Daughter
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1861*Gelligaer, Glamorgan
Elen Davies abt 1796 Adestone, Staffordshire Wife
William Davies abt 1831 Odgesty, Shropshire Head
Anne Davies b 1840 Kidermonster Worcs/Eng/ Daughter
Cleraney Davies b 1842 Pendomer, Glamorgan Daughter
Caroline Davies abt 1845 Pendomer Glamorgan Daughter
Eaban Lovelabt 1854 St Woollos Monmouthshire Boarder
Henry Stokes abt 1842Yatesbury Wiltshire Boarder
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John Stokes hd 48 wid/ Basket maker b Occan, Wiltshire
John Stokes abt 1847 Occan, Wiltshire, England Son
James Stokes 1849 Evercreech, Somerset Son
William Stokes b 1852 Lantarnam, Monmouthshire Son
Lenmenty Stokes abt 1855 Ledbrook, Glous Daughter
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William Davies abt 1831 Odgesty, Shropshire Hd Tin/Man
Elen Davies abt 1796 Adestone, Staffordshire Wife
Anne Davies abt 1840 Kiderminster, Worcs Daughter
Cleraney Davies abt 1842 PendomerGlamorganDau
Caroline Davies abt 1845 PendomerGlamorgan Daughter
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1861*Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
Benjamin Smith abt 1831 Glost Head / Basket Maker
Edward Smith abt 1857 Newbridge Glam, Wales Son
Elizabeth Smith abt 1849 Abergavenny Monmouthshire
Elvira Smith abt 1859 Roath, Glam Wales Daughter
Joseph Smith abt 1853 Dudley Staffordshire Eng Son
William Smith abt 1851 Llanelly Breconshire Wales Son
Hariett Lovell abt 1806 Leicestershire England Lodger
Arclus Lovell 1847 Dudley Worcestershire Eng Lodger
John Lovell 1851 Dudley Worcestershire Eng Lodger
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1861*Llanwonno, Glamorgan (Tents and Caravans)
William Riley abt 1791 Ireland Head Llanwonno, Glam
Peana Riley abt 1831 Ireland Wife Llanwonno, Glam
Caraline Riley abt 1845 Llanwonno Glam, Wales Dau
Elafeer Riley 1854 Eglwysiland Glam Wales Daughter
Samson Riley abt 1843 Merthyr Glamorgan Wales Son
Selina Riley 1849 Pontypool Mon Wales Daughter
Shandras Riley 1851 Abedare Glam Dau
John Riley 4 son
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Delfas Lovell abt 1854 Pontypool Son
Elizabeth Lyvel abt 1815 United States Wife
Lewis Lyvel abt 1841 Gloucestershire Son
Lorana Lyvel abt 1842 Gloucestershire Daughter
Mary Lyvel abt 1857 Neath Glamorgan Daughter
Sarah Lyvel abt 1851 Llanwonno Glamorgan Daughter
William Lyvel abt 1812 Burminhan, N K Head
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Esecia Lyvel (Lovell) abt 1831 Staffordshire Head
Heden Lyvel abt 1851 Swansea Glamorgan Daughter
Henry Lyvel abt 1860 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Son
Jane Lyvel abt 1855 Penfro Pembrokeshire Daughter
John Lyvel abt 1847 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Son
Llewellyn Lyvel abt 1852 Llanfabon, Glamorgan Son
Sefia Lyvel abt 1832 Ireland Wife
Sellirina Lyvel abt 1846 Blackwood Monmouthshire Dau
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James Potton abt 1798 Sheplin, Sussex Head
Jane Potton abt 1799 Sheplin, Sussex Wife
Sarah Potton abt 1843 Sheplin Sussex Daughter
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1861*Town: Hirwain County/Glamorgan
Thomas Boswell 70 head b Lonany, Berkshire grinder
Amberess Boswell 64 wife b Warwickshir
Francis Boswell 30 son b Linkonshire basket/maker
Unoithy Boswell 24 dau b Worcestershire
Jeremiah Boswell 22 son b Shropshire basket/maker
Spizeyna Boswell 20 dau b Shropshire
Elizah Boswell 16 son b Glamorgan basket/maker
Heraind Boswell 15 son b Glamorgan
E Fsevix Boswell 13 b Monmouthshire g/son
Lewis Lovill 21 b boarder b boarde
Debranina Lovill 15 boarder b Monmouthshire, Wales
Albert Loveill 7 brother b Flintshire, Wales
Charity Lock 5 boarder bCarmarthenshire, Wales
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1871*Trevethin, Monmouthshire
William Lovell b 1845 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Head
Sulyhana Lovell b 1844 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wife
Henry Lovell abt 1861 Trevethin, Monmouthshire Son
Ann Lovell abt 1864 Trevethin, MonmouthshireDaughter
John Lovell abt 1866 Trevethin, Monmouthshire Son
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1871*Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
William Lovell abt 1815 Exeter Devon GRINDER/CUTLER
Elizabeth Lovell b 1811 Pontypool Monmouthshire, Wife
Lewis Lovell b 1841 Gloucestershire Son Basket/maker
Sarah Lovell b1843 Newent, Gloucestershire Wife
Adolph Lovell b 1856 Darlaston, Staffordshire, Son
Dona Lovell abt 1862 Brecon, Breconshire Daughter
Sarack Lovell abt 1863 Tredegar Monmouthshire Son
Tranity Lovell abt 1865 Talabont, Breconshire Son
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1871*Llanedarn, Glamorgan(Gypsies Tents)
Penis Lovel abt 1836 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Basket/maker (I checked On image and yes it said Penis?) but spelt wrong .and is pronounced Pen-us
Gentily Lovel abt 1831 Christchurch Monm/, Wife
Aaron Boswell b1847 Aberdare Glam Nephew bsk/ maker
Elizabeth Smith b1826 St Bride'sGlamorgan Visitor
William Smith abt 1852 Hanelly, Breconshire Visitor
Edwin Smith abt 1857 Newbridge Glamorgan Visitor
Elvira Smith abt 1860 Lanedarn Glamorgan Visitor
Jerino Smith abt 1861 Whitchurch, Glamorgan Visitor
Brittinia Smith abt 1870 Aberdare Glamorgan Niece
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1871*Newport, Monmouthshire
Myre Lovell abt 1842 Staffordshire, EnglandHead
Ellen Lovellabt 1843 Derbyshire, EnglandWife
Sibuna Lovell abt 1863 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Daughter
Rachel Lovell abt 1868 Dudley Staffordshire, Daughter
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1871*Parish: Llanfabon Town: Garth : Glamorgan
(In Tents)
Heizecia Level 50 hd b Staffordshire
Hezafia Level 50 wife b Yorkshire, England
Delia Ross Level 25 son b Berkshire, England
Edevgel Level 20 b Swansea, Glamorgan
Elizabeth Level 2 b Mountain Ash, Glamorgan
Henry Level 9 b Neath, Glamorgan
John Level 22 b Maesteg, Glamorgan
Llewellyn Level 17 b Llanfabon, Glamorgan
Salvator Level 6 dau b Mountain Ash, Glamorgan,
Skisey Level 15 dau b Pembrokeshire, Wales
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Henry Stokes hd 36 Basket maker b Wiltshire
Carolina Stokes 25 b Glamorgan
Ann Stokes 11 dau b
Percilla Stokes 4 dau b
Sophia Stokes 13 dau months.b
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William Davis hd 61 widow b Denbyshire Basket maker
An Davis dau /unmarried/b Worcs
1871*Parish: Mynyddyslwyn Town: Clawrplwyf
In Tent
Mary Level 46 hd b Flintshire Selling pegs and baskets
Athur Level 3 son b Crumlin, Monmouthshire
Henry Level 17 son b Staffordshire Eng/Basket maker
John Level 16 son b Flintshire basket Maker
Lavania Level 14 dau b Pontypool, Monmouthshire
Limitman Level 6 dau b Crumlin, Monmouthshire
Llewellyn Level 26 son b Staffordshire/Basket Maker
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1881*Llanwonno:Glamorgan
Frederick Lovell abt 1819 Dudley Staffs Head
Arthur Lovell abt 1851 Abergavenny Monmouth Son
Joshua Lovell abt 1863 Crumlin Monmouth Son
Elizabeth Lovell abt 1865 Crumlin Monmouth Dau
Llewellyn Lovell abt 1869 Crumlin Monmouth Son
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1881*Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan
Alfred Lovel abt 1860 Staffordshire Hd/Grinder
Grace Lovel abt 1859 Dorset Wife
Elizabeth Lovel Glamorgan Dau/10 weeks
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1881* Gypsy Tent
William Lovell abt 1821 Devon Hd/Grinder
Maria Lovell abt 1822 Pentyhl, Monmouth Wife
Sharnderer Lovell abt 1856 Glam Son basket/maker
Dora Lovell abt 1863 Breconshire Daughter
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1881*Llansantffraid Glan Conway, Denbighshire
John Hughes 74 hd b Holywell, Flintshire
Charme Hughes 61 wife b Newry Ireland
Noah Lovell 20 b St Asaph Flintshire
Mary Lovell 20 b Woolverhampton, England
Jilly Rose Lovell 2 g/daubLlansantffraid Denbighshire
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1881*Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Frank Lovell 1828 Newport MonmouthHead basket/maker
Elizabeth Lovell 1829 Gloucestershire Wife
John Lovell 1868 Cwmnantddu MonmouthSon basket maker
Mary J. Lovell 1871Cwmnantddu Monmouth/Daughter
Pheonice Lovell 1875 United States/Son
Cornelius Lovell 1878Greenland P Pool MonmouthSon
Edengull Lovell 1851Swansea lodger
1881*Merthyr Tydfil Glamorgan
William Lovel abt 1851 Glamorgan Hd Grinder
Caroline Lovel abt 1853 Glamorgan Wife Hawker
Howel Lovel abt 1879 Breconshire Son
Alfred Lovel abt 1880 Monmouth Son
Matilda Evans 1801Glamorgan Lodger
Holly Gibbst 1870Glamorgan Visitor
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1881*Llanbeblig Caernarvonshire
Dolfus Lovel abt 1858 Rhyl, Flintshire Hd Grinder
Ellen Lovel abt 1861 Gwalchmai Angleseys Wife
Dolphus Lovel Llanbeblig Caernarvonshire Son
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1881*Denio Caernarvonshire (In Lodging house)
Uriah Lovell 31b Pembrokeshire grinder & cutler
Sophia Lovell 40 b Bangor Caernarvonshire
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